by Anna Petty

Kristine Langley Mahler is more than a writer of creative nonfiction. She is a memoirist, an archaeologist, a researcher, an essayist, and a poet. I compiled seven questions that delve into aspects explored within Kristine’s work. Her newest collection of hybrid essays, Teen Queen Training: Essays after The Seventeen Book of Etiquette and Entertaining, 1963, was recently released on February 17, 2026, with Autofocus Books.
AP: You wrote an article titled “Erasure: It’s For Nonfiction Writers Too!”, about your new book, Teen Queen Training, debuting on February 17th. This line caught my eye, “Flipping through the book, I got caught up on a chapter titled ‘Boys, Boys, Boys.’ So many lines mildly offended my sensibilities—it opened with the promise that ‘any girl can get a date,’ which was a flat-out lie in my experience…” Shortly afterward, you began “blacking out lines” of the original text and creating your own version. Your essay, “Boys, Boss” is the erasure of that chapter. It’s my favorite essay in the book and it’s also the longest essay in the collection. Can you tell us why this chapter in particular set the entire project in motion and how the idea that male relationships determine a woman’s worth affected and shaped you growing up and how you view that idea now?
KLM.: That original chapter from the Seventeen book, “Boys, Boys, Boys,” really set me off—like a tinderbox just waiting for a match—because one of my primary frustrations during my teenhood, which I return to over and over in Teen Queen Training, was how I never felt desirable to boys, regardless of what I did (or didn’t do). I don’t think that’s a particularly novel feeling—it’s deeply teenage—but my self-consciousness ate me alive.
Because I’d moved three times before arriving in the city where I spent my high school years, I didn’t have any familiarity with childhood friends who could turn into something more. I would say that—and this is very specific to my conceptualization of valueat the time—my reaction was less about relationships with men as defining a woman’s worth, and more about wanting to be found desirable by the people you want to find you desirable.
If I had been a queer teen, I would have been obsessed with wanting other queer teens to want me—my reaction was less gendered/weighted toward the power of men, specifically, as much as it was that I was attracted to boys as a teen and I wanted boys to be attracted to me. That being said, the Seventeen Book of Entertaining and Etiquette, as a product of the 1960s, was quite heteronormative, so their instruction fit my yearnings as well.
I still think that we all want the people we find desirable to desire us back!
AP: Your hard work and dedication to your craft have been widely recognized with several Fellowships. You also won a Research Grant in 2017 for a researched creative nonfiction project on immigration and inhabitation on native land. One of the many things you accomplished was transcribing eighteen years of your grandfather’s diaries into more than five hundred pages. With your expertise in research and as a nonfiction writer, how do you channel your efforts into a cohesive finished product? Can you give writers who may be new to researching for a large project pointers for sifting through storehouses of information and how they can keep their finished product in mind? Can you briefly describe your research process?
KLM: I love being in the archives, I love gathering information and letting it sit in my brain before shaking the sifter and seeing what filters through. I’m very much a packrat in that way, I have a shelf full of books from that project you referred to—the researched project on immigration/inhabitation on native land—and I’ve got several giant Word docs filled with my responses to those books, with questions I found myself wondering, with attempts and gestures toward making sense of them. And I wrote a handful of essays with some of the material that I was able to digest a little quicker. But—and this has come with practice and learning to trust my own processes/processing—I’m less concerned, now, with needing to turn that research into a product as soon as possible.
As a memoirist, I know that some material is sitting on the top of my consciousness, ready to be processed, and I know that other material is still composting down in my subconscious. I’ve been doing this long enough to trust myself and to know that, when I’m ready to see that material, it will surface. So, I’m not the best example of someone who can suggest ways to keep your finished product in mind when researching, as much as I might suggest relaxing your grip on your INTENTIONS for your finished product and letting the research itself, and the material you find interesting during the process, guide what you keep.
AP: In one of your previous interviews, you spoke about spending time not writing while quietly accessing your subconscious. This idea of the subconscious brings to mind a quote from your book, A Calendar is a Snakeskin, “Fear needs to be met with trust because the universe will bring us into the places we need to face.” Can you talk more about the role chance, mysticism, going with your gut, and listening to your subconscious has in your work? What other practices do you employ to ensure you are going where you need to go with your writing?
KLM: This is definitely related to my answer to the previous question about letting my subconscious do the work! That quote you mention about meeting fear with trust is perhaps at the center of what I think many of us writing memoir have to do—to encounter the self (and often others) we’ve averted our eyes from, and to see ourselves and others with a kinder, gentler, more considerate gaze. No one needs to be excoriated from the pain they’ve caused, but I find, over and over, that when I return to my most harrowing experiences with enough distance, I’m brought to my knees when I’m finally able to recognize the humanity in everyone involved—including myself.
AP: In your book, A Calendar is a Snakeskin, there is an essay titled “Wound watch” where you count down from twelve to one, with each number representing a different memory, a precious moment in time. Where do you find inspiration for your many, varied essay forms? Many of your essays have a poetic bend, can you explain what role poetry plays in your work and creative process?
KLM: That’s the contrarian in me that insists on bringing poetry into my essays, honestly. I like seeing boundaries and then I like walking up to the fence and leaning my elbows on it, looking across at the other side, my feet grounded in one form and my eyes taking in another. I would argue that poetry itself lives inside every form, anyway. Lineation is the only distinction, and even that is suspect! The language, the movement of sentences, the implied metaphor and surprising juxtaposition—that belongs to us all.
AP: For many writers, part of realizing you want to be a writer comes from falling in love with the work of others. Can you tell us who some of your favorite writers are and who most heavily influenced you as you grew into the writer you are today?
KLM: Jo Ann Beard was absolutely pivotal. I don’t know if I’ve ever talked about this before, but I went to high school in Terre Haute, Indiana in the late ‘90s, and we had a Waldenbooks in the mall and a Books-a-Million, which is another way of saying I had access to pop fiction and that’s about it. I was taking a creative writing elective as a high school senior in 1999 and I had written a piece, which I was calling a short story, that my advisor read and said, “This sounds a lot more like nonfiction.” I was like What is nonfiction??? So, I went to our public library and followed the Dewey Decimal System call code, and The Boys of My Youth was sitting there, and I took it off the shelf because I liked the cover, and I took it home, and I was never the same person again. I’d never in my life read anything like that before. IT WAS LIKE SHORT STORIES BUT THEY WERE TRUE!
Later—and I mean MUCH later—I would read interview after interview with other writers who came of writing age at the same time as me, and they talked about how formative Jo Ann Beard’s book was to them, and I was so, so surprised that other people KNEW ABOUT IT. For me, The Boys of My Youth was that book that we’ve all read, at some point, where we thought it was only ours. Kind of hilarious to remember now, how insular I thought it was. I see now how much that book shaped nearly all of us!
Other writers whose work continues to inspire me: Jenny Boully, Elissa Washuta, Annie Ernaux, Kate Zambreno, and Jeannie Vanasco.
AP: Are there cohesive threads that run throughout your work that you hope readers are able to recognize and apply to their own experience? Can you elaborate on those threads and what they mean to you?
KLM: Reconsidering the things from our past that we thought we knew. Gosh, that is at the core of everything I write and everything I ever expect to write. When you can return to formative experiences with more practiced eyes, or a softer heart, or with new information, it provides illumination, but—and this is very true for me—it provides empathy and the reminder that we are all flawed, fallible humans, trying to do the best we can most of the time with the tools we have.
AP: What advice can you give to writers that would like to experiment with different forms of writing in the nonfiction realm: such as essays and hybrid forms that you orchestrate so beautifully?
KLM: Be willing to consign work to the folder! Truly, so often writers are afraid to take formal risks with a project because if it doesn’t work out, it feels like a waste of time. Or material. Or whatever. But the folders on my hard drive with all of the essays I’ve attempted—or edited—or published—are full of drafts where I tried something, wasn’t sure if it was working, so I clicked Save As and gave the document a _3 or _4 or _12 before trying again. You never know when you’ll hit your stride with a form.
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Kristine Langley Mahler is the author of three nonfiction books, Teen Queen Training, A Calendar is a Snakeskin and Curing Season: Artifacts. Her work has been supported by the Nebraska Arts Council and Art at Cedar Point and thrice named Notable in Best American Essays. A memoirist experimenting with the truth on the suburban prairie, Kristine makes her home outside Omaha, Nebraska. She is the director of Split/Lip Press.
Anna Petty is an MFA candidate in creative nonfiction at Converse University, where she also received a Bachelor of Arts in Music. She is a mother and teacher by day, and writer by night. Currently, she is working on her first novel, a work that blurs the lines between memoir and fiction. She is a reader for South 85: An Online Literary Journal, as well as a South Carolina native.
You can find Kristine @kristinelangleymahler on Instagram, @suburbanprairie on Bluesky, and on her website: https://kristinelangleymahler.com.
You can find Anna @annapettypens on Instagram.


